February 02, 2009
More ponderings
The reason people debate whether #9 is possible in r/l is to do with legal and ethical aspects - like it's not actually legal to sign yourself over to someone else, or to keep someone locked up in your house, beat them for every transgression, withold food from them, etc. even if they agreed to it and signed their name on the 'contract', and also most people find it difficult to treat someone else as an animal or a piece of property, so many so-called TPE relationships are not that different from 'normal' slave ones. But having said that, kaya and her Master were trying for something more extreme at one point, i believe 'brainwashing' was even mentioned, and the idea was that she would become completely cut off from the outside world and totally immersed in Him and dependent on Him, that He would change her thinking and her mindset and mould her into the person He wanted her to be. i know that went a little wrong when she discovered a limit that she could not cross, and it shook her world and all of our's reading her blog, but i still think the TPE relationship is possible. i was in email contact for a brief while with a slave who had not been out of the house for years, was not allowed any contact with anyone besides her Master, had no access to newspapers, magazines, TV, etc so did not know any of the news from the outside world..... although part of me doubts whether it was all a lie. i guess i'll never know.
i know it's Monday and technically the Sunday musings should really be posted on the Sunday, but if i mused them yesterday but am only getting chance to post them today that counts right?....
So i was thinking some more about the article i read last week, on the 9 levels of submission. And i'd like to relabel the levels so that they make more sense to me, and also talk a bit about #9 and how it could be possible in r/l. If i were to do 9 levels of submission they'd be a bit like this:
1. masochist - into pain but only during sex, and very much an equal in the relationship (does not submit or serve in any way), sets the boundaries and dictates how the scene will play out - getting their pain needs met only.
2. bottom - will 'submit' but only during sex, and has a long list of limits and requirements which must be met, dictates when and where and how the scene will happen but may agree to follow orders/be tied up etc. during the actual scene itself - role-plays being submissive during sex.
3. play/scene sub - submits during scenes (may be at play parties or on a casual basis with Dom/mes known to them), has some limits but agrees to give themself over to be used by the Dom/me for the duration of the scene, allows the Dom/me to dictate how the scene will play out - submissive during sex/play only.
4. part-time sub - probably in a committed relationship with a Dom/me and submits outside of sex/play, but not all the time (might be 'weekends only' or '2 hours every evening' or 'when i feel in a submissive mood i'll put my collar on so you know'), serves the Dom/me in all ways within limits during those set times - submissive some of the time.
5. online/LDR sub - in a committed relationship with a Dom/me, but not physically with that person (remains in telephone/email/webcam/chatroom contact), feels submissive to the Dom/me all the time and acts within their rules but limited by the lack of physical interaction and presence - submissive in all agreed aspects but lacks r/l experiences.
6. full-time sub - as above but visits (frequently) or lives with their Dom/me, and thus is able to submit physically as well as mentally - submissive in all agreed aspects.
7. online/LDR slave - in a committed, collared relationship with a Dom/me, gives consent once to all future treatment and agrees to abide by whatever the Dom/me wishes, hands over control of all aspects of their life, but again limited by the lack of physical interaction - submissive always and in all aspects but lacks r/l experiences.
8. slave - as above but usually lives with their Dom/me, and thus submits physically as well as in all other ways - submissive 24/7 and in all aspects.
9. TPE slave - as above but has no limits at all and usually has harsh restrictions (for example on contact with the outside world, eating, sleeping, clothing and toileting arrangements) - property of the Dom/me to do with as they wish.
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